How is it possible that the top vote-getting idea on this site right now -- by almost 300 votes -- is to embrace Ron Paul? Either Paul's legion of online supporters are trying to fill what they perceive as a vacuum in the GOP, or we're in more trouble than I thought. Hillary Clinton is not sittin... more
How is it possible that the top vote-getting idea on this site right now -- by almost 300 votes -- is to embrace Ron Paul? Either Paul's legion of online supporters are trying to fill what they perceive as a vacuum in the GOP, or we're in more trouble than I thought. Hillary Clinton is not sitting around trying to figure out how to be more like Dennis Kuchinich. Paul and his supporters are to be commended for their impressive online presence, but Paul is not a Republican, and his ideas are not the future of the GOP. This site is littered with libertarian suggestions from people who are obviously Paul supporters trying to remake the Party in his image. I respect their opinions and their passion, but they are not the future of the GOP. Let's talk more about domestic policy, netroots, and fund raising around here, and less about bringing fringe candidates into the fold.
Mortician
Is the O.P crazy Ron Paul is more Republican than any other candidate there is.
Real Conservative
Yeah, there is nothing worse than to espouse the ideas that our Founding Fathers gave us. Let's instigate a dictatorship and have Giuliani rule us with an iron grip. That is the true American way. No more freedoms, no more elections, and let's have wars that last for centuries no matter how useless they are. There is nothing better than to have American soldiers come home in coffins wherein they fought for our new American Empire. Yes, Empire!! We need to rule the world, and if that means we go bankrupt,... more
Yeah, there is nothing worse than to espouse the ideas that our Founding Fathers gave us. Let's instigate a dictatorship and have Giuliani rule us with an iron grip. That is the true American way. No more freedoms, no more elections, and let's have wars that last for centuries no matter how useless they are. There is nothing better than to have American soldiers come home in coffins wherein they fought for our new American Empire. Yes, Empire!! We need to rule the world, and if that means we go bankrupt, incur over a million deaths of expendable American soldiers, then so be it. After all, this is the new Neo-conservative Republican Party of Big Government, huge corporations, no small businesses, and no Christianity. That's right, this is the new Republican party. We're in your face with tyranny and government control.
Down with Conservative politics and up with FDR type government!!! I agree with the original poster of this thread.
katmeredith
I'm more of a libertarian, I admit it. But part of that is because they have a specific set of plans and beliefs, the Republicans don't anymore. I want to be a Republican and I typically vote Republican, but I think that Ron Paul is 99% correct on what we need to do and how.
Tom Spettigue
@ Aaron: (cont'd)
Until those caveats are addressed with competent, and logical arguments (either for or against -- I'm not saying the GOP has to agree with me), the GOP won't have any of my votes in 2012, and they won't have anyone else's either. To be frank, I'd rather live in the Democrats' vision for America than the Republicans' current one, so, try me.
Tom Spettigue
@ Aaron: (cont'd)
Finally, I'll hear what the GOP has to say when they actually start caring about individual liberty. As an atheist, I have no moral qualms with abortion, gay marriage, or comprehensive sex education. People of faith might, but they can always personally abstain from all of those practices -- rather than forcing their morals on others.
Tom Spettigue
@ Aaron: (cont'd)
Perhaps when Republicans have the balls to end the War on Drugs, a big government, privacy-invasive and expensive program that, statistically, has had no significant effect on reducing drug availability, potency, or inexpensiveness. Even now, in horrific economic conditions, an increasingly violent border drug war -- GOP polticians haven't the balls to do what's right.
Tom Spettigue
@ Aaron: (cont'd)
I'll hear the GOP when they stop talking about being the party of "freedom" and justice, while overwhelmingly willing to give the Executive Branch obviously dangerous powers (Patriot Act, MCA 2006, FISA revisions). I like how the GOP talks about being pro-life, while simultaneously endorsing a horrifically bloody war and torture techniques for interrogation.
Tom Spettigue
@ Aaron: (cont'd)
And when the GOP decides to stop being the party of hypocrites (not that the Democrats are much better these days -- Libertarians FTW) that they are, I'll be willing to hear them out. Until then, I'm tired of hearing any GOP senator talk about "fiscal responsibility" after the budgetary disgrace that was the last eight years.
Tom Spettigue
@Aaron:
If you have to stick to given websites, then you're obviously not keeping an open mind about anything. I'm mostly conservative, and some of the liberal crap that comes outta Digg pisses me off -- but I still go there. I still read the premises of those whom I disagree with.
sickmint79
i love how someone disagreeing with the author means there's a ron paul conspiracy, aren't those idiots the ones that accuse paul supporters of tinfoil hats? the author wants the party to keep doing what it has been doing and ignore the one man whose beliefs brough energy and new interest to the party - a brilliant way to pound the last nail in the coffin of the GOP. blind, sad and ridiculous.
Aaron
Sad that this site has been taken over by Paultards. I guess we real Republicans will have to stick to our pre-established sites like RedState.
BTW, if Ron Paul is such a real Republican, why did the front page of his campaign site have info on how to CHANGE YOUR PARTY REGISTRATION? A real Republican should be able to rely upon the votes of other Republicans to be nominated not that McCain did.
Tom Spettigue
Hey, joeyt2k...
...how's 329 votes feel to 5,042? Heh heh heh. >:D
toHELLwithRepublicans
YES! CORRECT! Paulers WILL NOT reanimate this elephant corpse. This party has REJECTED God. REJECTED the Supreme Laws of the land. REJECTED self-determination. REJECTED cries of those it represents. It is the Lochlan, Mornay and Craig to Paul's William Wallace. So yes, continue to court the evil and trick the weak. That will bear more fruit than chasing Paul's warrior poets. FREEDOM!!!!!!
zatavu
It's not about a candidate. It's not about a man. It's about ideas. Ron Paul's ideas are the best ideas in the GOP at the present time. I support him because he supports the things I support. It's about ideas. McCain had none -- which is why he won the primary (the GOP has become afraid of its own ideas), but lost the general election. If McCain (or Bush) had run as a Dem, who would have noticed?
Colorz
Sorry but you are wrong. I am a 53 year old lady that has always voted Republican, and from what I see, it is the GOP that has lost it's way and Rob Paul who has stated what the previous GOP platforms have been. Liberty individualism, personal choice, SMALLER government, LOWER taxes. Paul has no charisma, give me a candidate that has his platform and I stay and continue to donate. Do not, I go LIB
jfurnish
You can protect these items and have a very small government with very little taxes. Abortion is taking of life and the government is responsible for protecting it. Legislating marriage would still just create criminals...homosexuals will have sex and live together regardless of what laws are on the books. Drunks still drank during prohabition...they just became criminals...they did not change.
jfurnish
The second issue you probably have with Ron Paul is his stand for personal freedom/liberty. This was how our nation was founded...just research your history. Legislating morality has never worked...think prohabition. It only makes criminals and pits groups against each other. The governments job is to protect Life, Liberty, Freedom, and Property.
jfurnish
The problem is we have candidates that use bullet points but don't have the wisdom or understanding about the basics of economics...this is why we had republicans voting for the bailout...we put these people in office and then prop them up and continue to support them. This has to stop. We can not have lower taxes, and less government and expand our military. You can have one but not the other.
jfurnish
A potential does exist for war but it can only be fought by a strong country economically. We went into Iraq when the economy was being proped up by the housing industry....then the economy got proped up by defense spending. Without these two things we would have been in a recession a long time ago. All these actions did was push it off.
jfurnish
The only way for this to happen is to end the FED and get back on the gold standard...if you don't understand why then you don't understand a free market system. In a free market with lower taxes and less government you can't afford to be in every nation. This is what President Bush ran on...and won on...then he changed his tone..and expanded government.